[MikeB20634]

Some of you may have already heard Olivo suffered a groin strain. That being said what happens next with catching duties, and will someone be called up? Don't read USS Mariner much but Dave had several ideas about what could happen should Olivo go on the DL.

[phredmojo]

MikeB20634, on 30 April 2012 - 08:20 PM, said:

Some of you may have already heard Olivo suffered a groin strain. That being said what happens next with catching duties, and will someone be called up? Don't read USS Mariner much but Dave had several ideas about what could happen should Olivo go on the DL.

jaso and montero split and carp replaces olivo

http://seattletimes....to_dl_saun.html

[MikeB20634]

Thanks. So they are bringing up Carp and splitting catching duties as suspected. Hopefully Jaso will adjust as he hasn't had anytime behind the dish this season.

[xarmyguy78]

MikeB20634, on 30 April 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

Thanks. So they are bringing up Carp and splitting catching duties as suspected. Hopefully Jaso will adjust as he hasn't had anytime behind the dish this season.

Last I heard on twitter is that Olivo WILL be out longer than 15 days

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@shannondrayer
Olivo says he felt a pop, much different from the pull last spring

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@GregJohnsMLB
Olivo injured same groin muscle last Spring Training and says this one feels worse. He was back in 3 weeks on that one.

[DocMilo]

MikeB20634, on 30 April 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

Thanks. So they are bringing up Carp and splitting catching duties as suspected. Hopefully Jaso will adjust as he hasn't had anytime behind the dish this season.

You would have to think this makes things easier on the M's. They were going to have to call up Carp anyways since his DL rehab time was expiring. Too bad Carp was struggling in Tacoma.

[MfaninAlaska]

Didn't want to start a new topic for this, but the M's might be activating Olivo today from the DL.... and.... it looks like Casper Wells is being sent to Tacoma.... "per Baker on Twitter"

Not Official yet.

This post has been edited by MfaninAlaska: 24 May 2012 - 11:41 AM

[Huindekmi]

No rehab. Will his offense struggle accordingly? Would anyone be able to tell the difference?

[DaddyO]

Huindekmi, on 24 May 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

No rehab. Will his offense struggle accordingly? Would anyone be able to tell the difference?

The concept of "rehab" is a problem in the case of Olivo. One could state that the goal of a rehab assignment would be to help Olivo work out the kinks from his layoff, get himself back in playing shape, and get his swing prepared for a return to an MLB lineup. If he has no swing to speak of, it sort of blows the whole concept out of the water. Ergo, why worry about it. His purpose on the roster is to serve as a veteran presence, no more, no less. It seems to matter not whether he produces, he plays. In that environment, he can achieve Wedge's goals no matter how he hits. No need for rehab. Welcome back, vet. Gee, this team really missed your veteran presence. Now get out there and be a veteran.

[MfaninAlaska]

Huindekmi, on 24 May 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

No rehab. Will his offense struggle accordingly? Would anyone be able to tell the difference?

He rehabbed a couple games in Tacoma.... he was 3-13 with 6 strikeouts... and one HR.

I'm just surprised they sent out Wells and kept Figgins... guess they don't trust Wells to be able to handle CF if Saunders gets hurt or needs a break.

This post has been edited by MfaninAlaska: 24 May 2012 - 11:59 AM

[Pirata Morado]

MfaninAlaska, on 24 May 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

He rehabbed a couple games in Tacoma.... he was 3-13 with 6 strikeouts... and one HR.

I'm just surprised they sent out Wells and kept Figgins... guess they don't trust Wells to be able to hald CF if Saunders gets hurt or needs a break.

I think it has more to do with the fact that Figgins can't be sent down. When does his contract expire?

[MfaninAlaska]

Pirata Morado, on 24 May 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

I think it has more to do with the fact that Figgins can't be sent down. When does his contract expire?

After next season....

[Jokestar]

I may have had an epiphany on why Olivo is not going anywhere for a while. Felix. He apparently dosen't like Montero as a catcher, according to an earlier post, and who knows how he feels about Jaso. That leaves Olivo. The king is probably the only one on the team who can demand....and get.....his own personal catcher.

[Huindekmi]

Jokestar, on 24 May 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

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Felix. He apparently dosen't like Montero as a catcher, according to an earlier post, and who knows how he feels about Jaso.
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Wow! Really?

That quote didn't come from Felix. It wasn't even based on conversations with Felix or someone with inside knowledge. The comment was made by Steve Phillips, talking head for ESPN, bloviating that Felix wouldn't stay in Seattle if he had to pitch to Jesus. There was nothing to back that up. Just Phillip's opinion of Jesus' defensive skills.

In reality, Felix has pitched four games with Jesus as his catcher. He won two of them, giving up one run and five hits total. He also lost two of them in pretty bad fashion. If you're going to assume Felix won't pitch to Montero because of those two games, you also have to assume he won't pitch to Olivo due to the games (like April 7) where Felix couldn't find his pitches and gave up a bunch of runs.

Felix may or may not have a preference for catchers, but I certainly wouldn't take Phillips' opinion as proof of it.

[Vidya]

Too bad Carp has used all his options. I can understand not releasing Figgins at this point, but it seems inevitable that Zduriencik will have to bite the bullet and eventually do it.

With Liddi doing so well, Casper seems to be the odd man out. The move does allow for Figgins to maybe get an occasional start in the OF, but Wells needed more playing time, and now he will get it. I guess that's the bad news and the good news of the move.

[Lonnie]

Jokestar, on 24 May 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

I may have had an epiphany on why Olivo is not going anywhere for a while. Felix. He apparently dosen't like Montero as a catcher, according to an earlier post, and who knows how he feels about Jaso. That leaves Olivo. The king is probably the only one on the team who can demand....and get.....his own personal catcher.

That is quite a keg of dynamite you are throwing into the conversation. Could you at least supply a link to where you got this info?

[Vidya]

Jaso may lose even more playing time now. I hope that Wedge still gives him some starts at catcher, but the record is not good. The only other positions he can play are DH and 1B, and Wedge has yet to play him at first base.

My preference at this time would be to release Figgins, and get Jaso and Wells more into the starting mix. Right now Carp and Smoak are producing less than Olivo, and I expect Liddi will take more and more starts from them. Jaso losing more playing time worries me, but he hasn't been getting a lot of it lately even with Olivo gone. I also believe that Jaso is out of options, so sending him to Tacoma to get playing time may not be a possibility.

[Vidya]

Lonnie, on 24 May 2012 - 01:52 PM, said:

That is quite a keg of dynamite you are throwing into the conversation. Could you at least supply a link to where you got this info?

There may not be a link. I believe he heard it on the radio. I'm on the side that it is only a totally false rumor. Felix has never said anything public about it, and is too classy a guy to ever do it. All he cares about is winning games, especially those he pitches. If Montero can get him a couple more W's with his bat, they will become best friends.

[phredmojo]

the source is steve phillips, and its based entirely on his opinion of monteros defense and what he thinks felix thinks

[Jokestar]

I know I read it somewhere. I thought it was in a post on here, but it could have been on another blog site. Basically it said what I said and what phred has stated. I almost responded to it, because I thought that Montero was doing a pretty good job catching. Anyway, no proof, just rumor, but it made sense to me if Felix indeed sees it that way.

[EA!]

The problem with the "Felix loves Olivo" narrative is that it doesn't explain why Olivo is in the DH spot when he isn't catching.