[IWantZduriencik'sJob]

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"....Griff is special to me because we came up together," Rodriguez said. "He was a teammate, he was a brother and a mentor all rolled in one. It was a special day for me..."

by A-Fraud on hitting his 630 home run.

Griffey came into the league in 1989 and was a star, gold glove and a kid with a great smile. He even played with his dad during his second season and third season with Mariners. A-Fraud was 15 and 16 years old.

Mariners drafted A-Fraud in 1993 and he almost did not sign the contract for the Mariners and did have a letter of intent with University of Miami. He played his first game July 8th 1994 and we then had the strike August 12, 1994. I have tickets for a game in the Kingdome that August somewhere, but the Mariners ended a 20 game road trip on that August day. He played in those last games. He also played a few games in 1995.

How did Griff and A-Rod come up together?? Is he re-writing history? Terrible with math. Or the two or three drugs he started taking in high school, minors or majors starting to impact his thinking??

[phredmojo]

IWantZduriencik, on 13 April 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:

by A-Fraud on hitting his 630 home run.

Griffey came into the league in 1989 and was a star, gold glove and a kid with a great smile. He even played with his dad during his second season and third season with Mariners. A-Fraud was 15 and 16 years old.

Mariners drafted A-Fraud in 1993 and he almost did not sign the contract for the Mariners and did have a letter of intent with University of Miami. He played his first game July 8th 1994 and we then had the strike August 12, 1994. I have tickets for a game in the Kingdome that August somewhere, but the Mariners ended a 20 game road trip on that August day. He played in those last games. He also played a few games in 1995.

How did Griff and A-Rod come up together?? Is he re-writing history? Terrible with math. Or the two or three drugs he started taking in high school, minors or majors starting to impact his thinking??

i'm looking at the career HR list and i do not see the person you are talking about anywhere on it. here are the top 10 of alltime

1. Hank Aaron+ (23) 755
2. Babe Ruth+ (22) 714
3. Willie Mays+ (22) 660
4. Ken Griffey (22) 630
5. Jim Thome (22, 41) 604
6. Frank Robinson+ (21) 586
7. Harmon Killebrew+ (22) 573
8. Reggie Jackson+ (21) 563
9. Mike Schmidt+ (18) 548
10. Mickey Mantle+ (18) 536

[xarmyguy78]

phredmojo, on 13 April 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

i'm looking at the career HR list and i do not see the person you are talking about anywhere on it. here are the top 10 of alltime

1. Hank Aaron+ (23) 755
2. Babe Ruth+ (22) 714
3. Willie Mays+ (22) 660
4. Ken Griffey (22) 630
5. Jim Thome (22, 41) 604
6. Frank Robinson+ (21) 586
7. Harmon Killebrew+ (22) 573
8. Reggie Jackson+ (21) 563
9. Mike Schmidt+ (18) 548
10. Mickey Mantle+ (18) 536

What do the numbers in parentheses mean and are the plus signs indicative of HOF status?

[phredmojo]

xarmyguy78, on 13 April 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:

What do the numbers in parentheses mean and are the plus signs indicative of HOF status?

# of years they played, and yes + means HOF

This post has been edited by phredmojo: 14 April 2012 - 07:27 AM

[tradedollarnut]

631 today for AFraud. I'd have to say he's a lock to pass the Babe and stands an outside chance of catching Bonds. That is a funky list - where is Bonds???

This post has been edited by tradedollarnut: 21 April 2012 - 11:20 AM

[Huindekmi]

That is a funky list, until you remember Phred's staunch stance against cheaters. Below is the actual list of home run leaders.

1.  Barry Bonds (22)       762
2.  Hank Aaron+ (23)       755
3.  Babe Ruth+ (22)        714
4.  Willie Mays+ (22)      660
5.  Alex Rodriguez (19)    631
6.  Ken Griffey (22)       630
7.  Sammy Sosa (18)        609
8.  Jim Thome (22, 41)     604
9.  Frank Robinson+ (21)   586
10. Mark McGwire (16)      583
11. Harmon Killebrew+ (22) 573
12. Rafael Palmeiro (20)   569
13. Reggie Jackson+ (21)   563
14. Manny Ramirez (19)     555
15. Mike Schmidt+ (18)     548
16. Mickey Mantle+ (18)    536

Take that list and remove anyone accused of using steroids - proven or not, punished or not - and you're left with Phred's personal home run leader list. Of course, you'll note that he does not omit players accused of taking other illegal substances to boost their performance on the field, such as amphetamines.

[phredmojo]

tradedollarnut, on 21 April 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

631 today for AFraud. I'd have to say he's a lock to pass the Babe and stands an outside chance of catching Bonds. That is a funky list - where is Bonds???

i'm looking at the records for all players named bonds and i can only findd one player wiith that name and bobby bonds doesn't belong on the list

[senior octobre]

Huindekmi, on 21 April 2012 - 11:32 AM, said:

1.  Barry Bonds (22)       762
2.  Hank Aaron+ (23)       755
3.  Babe Ruth+ (22)        714
4.  Willie Mays+ (22)      660
5.  Alex Rodriguez (19)    631
6.  Ken Griffey (22)       630
7.  Sammy Sosa (18)        609
8.  Jim Thome (22, 41)     604
9.  Frank Robinson+ (21)   586
10. Mark McGwire (16)      583
11. Harmon Killebrew+ (22) 573
12. Rafael Palmeiro (20)   569
13. Reggie Jackson+ (21)   563
14. Manny Ramirez (19)     555
15. Mike Schmidt+ (18)     548
16. Mickey Mantle+ (18)    536

Interesting how home ballparks figure into it. If Mays played in the parks Aaron played in he'd have 755 or more, rather playing in the Polo Grounds and The Stick. A-Rod, Griffey, Sosa, Palmeiro, Jackson, Man Ram played in a bandbox. Ruth started in Fenway for a few years, when the Rightfield Grandstands went way back, moved to the Polo Grounds while Yankee Stadium was being built and finished in Yankee Stadium. Ruth's power, like Mays, was to the alleys. A-Rod played in the kingdome and in Arlington before going to the bombers. We know about Griffey, who never had to play in Riverfront, I believe. Robinson played in the old big barn in Baltimore and at Riverfront. Killebrew played in the big joint. Palmeiro played mostly in Texas. Jackson started in Oakland, before the remodel, went to Yankee Stadium and then the Big A. Schmidt played in a big park his whole career.

Bonds played in big parks (The Stick, Three Rivers, and PNB) but had some help.

The most immpressive are Ruth, Mays, Thome, Killebrew, Jackson, Schmidt and Mantle, IMHO.

[Huindekmi]

senior octobre, on 27 April 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

We know about Griffey, who never had to play in Riverfront, I believe.

Quick correction:

Riverfront Stadium was home to the Reds through the end of the 2002 season. The new stadium (Great American Ballpark or some such) opened Mar 31, 2003.

Since Griffey joined the Reds in 2000, he most definitely played in Riverfront. In fact, he played 169 games and hit 38 home runs there. More than he hit during all his time in Safeco (2.5 seasons).

Griff should have asked to be traded to Minnesota. He must have LOVED the Metrodome. He hit 26 homers there (most of any visitor ballpark) in only 70 games.

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

I just wish Griffey would of stayed healthy. If he did he'd be the HR king right now and be considered the best ball player of all time.