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So, who did we pick in this draft?

 

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We picked up a lanky 1B out of the U of Kentucky (Evan White -- see my Adopt-a-Player claim in the minor league section) in the first round and then a high school pitcher in the 2nd round.

 

Since then, they've been loading up on pitchers, including a kid from Gonzaga. Through 10 rounds, they've selected 7 pitchers. The three position players are White, a catcher out of Cal State Long Beach and a CF from Coastal Carolina


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Adopt-a-Players: NONE

Gone But Not Forgotten (former adopt-a-players):

Forrest Snow - Signed a minor league deal with the Brewers. Currently has a bad case of the Biloxi Blues.

Alex Jackson - Traded to Atlanta after underwhelming in A ball. Looking much better in their system.
Eric Thames - After dominating in Korea, now playing for the Brewers and hitting .309/.437/.662/1.099.
Matt Mangini - Out of baseball. Now sells cigars.
Mike Morse - Playing for the SF Giants and struggling. Looks like time has caught up with him.
Jamal Strong - Let go after 2005. Played in the Yankees, Cubs and Braves systems. Now a national scout for the Cards.


Updated: 03/03/2017

 
 

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We picked up a lanky 1B out of the U of Kentucky (Evan White -- see my Adopt-a-Player claim in the minor league section) in the first round and then a high school pitcher in the 2nd round.

 

Since then, they've been loading up on pitchers, including a kid from Gonzaga. Through 10 rounds, they've selected 7 pitchers. The three position players are White, a catcher out of Cal State Long Beach and a CF from Coastal Carolina

Thanks Huindekmi!


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Pirata... I'll take a stab at the intros for the draft picks so far... but suffice it to say as first general impression - baseball_thumb.gif cheer.gif cool.png - or more specific, the top 2 selections were both expected by several experts to be top 15 picks, and the M's got them with the 17th and 55th picks. The rest of the guys are normal filler that the M's have done in the past - relief pitchers with lots of promise to make the MLB in 4 years and speedy OF's that could turn into a Gamel.

 

1. Evan White - 1B / CF from U of Kentucky. 6'3" 190 lbs. His worst skill is power... but that could be developed over time. Evan has speed, great glove, decent arm, and has always had a high BA with very few K's. Comparisons range from a right handed Christian Yelich (All-star CF for Marlins) to Eric Hosmer (All-Star 1B for Royals) to a more athletic John Olerud without the walks... or on the mid range like a Darin Erstad (former CF / 1B for Angels).

2. Sam Carlson - SP right handed - HS from Minnesota, so low mileage on arm. 6'4" 190 lbs. Top 3 right handed HS pitcher in draft. Heavy sinking fastball currently 90-94 mph but touches 97 in bullpens for scouts. Has change-up and slider that both have good to very good movement, but need time to command and control. He definitely could be an ACE or #2 starter.  He is probably now the top rated pitcher in the M's system - which is hard for me to write since my Adopt a player is formerly the top rated pitcher Neidert. 

3. Wyatt Mills - Relief pitcher, right handed side armer, similar to Cishek, from Gonzaga. Fastball in low 90's, with curve and change-up. Closer. He hardly walks anyone... classic Dipoto pick.

4. Seth Elledge - Relief pitcher, right handed from small school, Dallas Baptist. 6'3" 230lbs. Sinking fastball in low to mid 90's, with decent to average slider.  Dominated in Cape Cod league in 2016.

5. Dave Banuelos - Defensive Catcher. Bats & throws right handed. Has good strike zone awareness while batting, but not known for his hitting. Think Rene Rivera or Jesus Sucre.

6. Oliver Jaskie - Left handed starter / reliever - U of Michigan - fastball in 89 - 92 MPH range as starter, with average but developing curve. All Big 10 starter. Dominated in Cape Cod league in 2016.

7. Max Roberts - Left handed starter / relief pitcher from small school, Wabash Valley. K's roughly 9 per 9 innings against unknown competition. Range 89-92 fastball as a starter.

8. Billy Cooke - CF from Coastal Carolina - throws & bats right handed - speedy, slash hitter who can take a walk. Had a .479 OBP this year, which put him 15th best for Division 1 players. OK arm but good defender.

9. Jorge Benitez - Left handed starter / relief pitcher from Puerto Rico HS. Possibly left handed Edwin Diaz. Currently fastball in 87 to 90 MPH, but so was Diaz at this age.

10. Randy Bell - Right handed starting pitcher - 5'10" from South Alabama University. Think Dan Altavilla. As starter is 89 -92 MPH with fastball currently, but touches 96 in bullpens with scouts. 


Edited by Tacoma Rain, 13 June 2017 - 03:30 PM.

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Adopt-a-players:

 

Nick Neidert

Starting RHP, 6'1" 180 lbs., born 11/20/1996, Selected in 2nd round of 2015 directly out of high school

Currently ranked ​​the BEST Mariner pitching prospect in August 2016 by MLB.com... overall #4 Mariner Prospect.

in 2015, Played with AZL Mariners at Rookie level, where he had an ERA 1.53 and G/F ratio 2.55​

​In late May 2016, Promoted to Clinton. 108.2 innings, 2.44 ERA, 86 hits 90 K's, and 16 walks... and he is still 19 years old!!!

 

Joe Rizzo

​3B/OF/DH, Bats L - Throws - R, 5'9" 195 lbs., born 3/31/98, Selected in 2nd round of 2016 directly out of high school

​Currently rated BEST PURE Mariner hitting prospect in farm system by MLB.com... Currently ranked #7 Mariner Prospect.

​In 2016, Played with AZL Mariners at Rookie Level, where he had .291/.355/.392 in 39 games

​Skills: Great contact skills, great baseball IQ and makeup, very strong hands & wrists, very quick bat, defense will always be an issue wherever he plays 

 

Christopher Torres

​SS/2B, Bats - S, Throws - R, 5'11" 170 lbs., born 2/6/98, Signed as Int'l Free Agent in 2014 out of DR

​Currently rated MOST COMPLETE SS Prospect by MLB.com... overall #11 Mariner Prospect.

​In 2016, Played with AZL Mariners at Rookie Level, where he had .257/.337/.359 in 44 games with 12 SB

​Skills: Great arm, quick release, very good range, very good speed and quickness, above average contact skills

 

Former Adopt-a-player:

 

Jordy Lara  - 2014 Mariner Prospect of the year - 1B/3B/OF

Ryan Yarbrough - Starting LHP - Traded to Tampa for Drew Smyly

 


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Wow, thanks Tacoma Rain, very impressive, appreciated!


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Nice work Gents! Thank You!


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Mariner Central Adopt-A-Players: 

DJ Peterson ~ Tacoma.
 Luis Liberato ~ A Ball

Former Adopt-A-Players:

Victor Sanchez ~ RIP
Greg Halman ~ RIP  

JARROD DYSON

50th round in 2006 out of Southwest Mississippi JC

7th in MLB in defensive war
1st in AL in SB
1st in MLB in HBP

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Carlson is a huge get if they can buy him out of going to college. Some of the 3-10 picks are affordability picks, so they must think they have a shot.
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You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all. ~Earl Weaver

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That HS kid we took in the second round is the jewel of this draft.  Taking the Gonzaga kid in the third was not a throw away pick to save money!  He really opened some eyes this year!


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My Adopt-A-Players:
Tyler Smith

Gianfranco Wawoe


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Carlson is a huge get if they can buy him out of going to college. Some of the 3-10 picks are affordability picks, so they must think they have a shot.

 

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My Adopt-A-Players:
Tyler Smith

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That HS kid we took in the second round is the jewel of this draft.  Taking the Gonzaga kid in the third was not a throw away pick to save money!  He really opened some eyes this year!

Mills is interesting but he's evidently signing way below slot and you can't discount that factor. They are going to need to pay Carlson first-round money to land him and they have to make that $500(ish) k up somewhere. And it's totally worth it. 


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Im REALLY intrigued by our first round pick White. I forget where I read it but he could potentially play any of the 3 outfield positions at the mlb level.  Another quote I read was if he were to be called up day one he'd be the best defensive firstbaseman in the league.....

 

I love the Yelich comparison. 

 

Kid has speed and if he sticks at 1b,  could turn into a Paul GoldSmicht type player, if the power comes......


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I also concur that the second pick Carlson was a STEAL,  many had him going in the mid first round.  I think people were afraid he'd go to college, (signed with Florida)  but according to his presser yesterday sounds like he's going to sign.....


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Pics and video of White stretching out at first. Flexible. Think Olga Corbett
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Mariner Central Adopt-A-Players: 

DJ Peterson ~ Tacoma.
 Luis Liberato ~ A Ball

Former Adopt-A-Players:

Victor Sanchez ~ RIP
Greg Halman ~ RIP  

JARROD DYSON

50th round in 2006 out of Southwest Mississippi JC

7th in MLB in defensive war
1st in AL in SB
1st in MLB in HBP

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=XmPxlo2Gly8

http://www.fangraphs...866&position=OF

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I can't help but think about how few "great offense skills except power" 1B-types never amount to anything. Even the supposedly great prospects like Casey Kotchman usually turn out like crap (of course, in Kotchman's case, he still didn't show power through AAA but people were still expecting it).

Hopefully, White isn't one of those. Maybe he sticks in CF or fills out some, but stays athletic to stick in LF/ RF. Or maybe he does develop his power into at least a really good gap hitter so he can be a 1B.
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AAPs:

Herschel Mack Just call me 'Boog' Powell IV has just been promoted to The Show for the first time and is hoping to stick around for a couple dozen years or so.

Joe Snake Eyes Wieland has been a mid-K, super-low-BB, Groundball machine in the minors and has a ~90 mph FB.  With his potential for masterful zone control, he's looking like the textbook Dipoto-type SP.

 

 

Gone, but not forgotten AAPs:
Nick Franklin

Brad Miller

Roenis Elias

 

Something horrible happened to Franklin and Elias.  Franklin was as sexy a blue-chipper as the M's have seen in a while, but it never materialized.  Elias was a bulldog with lots of Moxy, but fell off.  Miller, after looking like he'll never stick at SS or learn the OF, is forcing the Rays to play him somewhere because of his bat.


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M's sign 8 LH pitchers, 15 RH pitchers, 4 SS, 5 CF, 3 catchers, 1 3B and 2 1B from the draft, including White, the 1st rounder, who is expected in Everett. Brayon Hernández also in Everett.
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Mariner Central Adopt-A-Players: 

DJ Peterson ~ Tacoma.
 Luis Liberato ~ A Ball

Former Adopt-A-Players:

Victor Sanchez ~ RIP
Greg Halman ~ RIP  

JARROD DYSON

50th round in 2006 out of Southwest Mississippi JC

7th in MLB in defensive war
1st in AL in SB
1st in MLB in HBP

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=XmPxlo2Gly8

http://www.fangraphs...866&position=OF

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Nice! Thank You Octobre


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