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Can Ichiro reach 3000 hits ?


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Poll: Can Ichiro reach 3000 hits ? (11 member(s) have cast votes)

can ichiro reach 3000 hits ?

  1. yes (4 votes [36.36%])

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  2. no (7 votes [63.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.64%

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He just passed Babe Ruth on the all time hits list.  Only 125 more to get to 3k.  Probably not this year, but if he plays one more year he should get there!

He just passed Omar Vizquel the other day too.

 

122 hits to go.


Edited by IWantZduriencik'sJob, 07 June 2015 - 08:07 AM.

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1278 hits in Japan

2901 hits in MLB as of July 30th

 

4179 total hits for Ichiro

4256 total hits for Pete Rose

 

77 hits more needed to tie Pete Rose

99 hits for 3000.


Edited by IWantZduriencik'sJob, 30 July 2015 - 05:07 AM.

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92 to go before today's game.I can see this org. bringing him back next year. Unfortunately he's running a reverse aplit this year. Sub .600 OPS vs RHP and .700+ OPS vs LHP. Weird.
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I don't see the Mariners having any interest in him until he retires, but I believe he'll get a contract somewhere. Miami has taken over the race for the #1 draft pick from the Phillies. It will probably be some organization in total rebuild mode looking for a way to sell tickets.

 

OK, maybe that will be the Mariners this HSL. I hope not.


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92 to go before today's game.I can see this org. bringing him back next year. Unfortunately he's running a reverse aplit this year. Sub .600 OPS vs RHP and .700+ OPS vs LHP. Weird.

He's (almost) always run a reverse split.  He's always had a very strong reputation for it, at the very least.  Heck, I remember when he was younger, it was always funny to see the vL split the broadcast would show of him against LHP.  Combined with his RISP w/ 2O split, it seemed like there was a >50% chance that he'd get a hit.

 

From my observations, there are specific types of LHB and RHB that almost always run reverse splits.

 

LHB:  "Slow" bat types whose hard-line game plan is to pepper the ball the other way à la Ichiro.  They succeed with the game plan by having their bat in the zone forever with their hands out in front of the barrel.  And since LHP are generally a tick slower than RHP and (therefore) less apt to attack inside, this type of hitter will often make more fair contact vs. them compared to RHP

RHB:  Hyper quick bat types who just want to pull anything on the inner half à la Beltre.  Since RHP are generally harder throwing and (therefore) more apt to attack inside, these hitters are is less likely to swing-and-miss or pull foul a pitch.


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Herschel Mack Just call me 'Boog' Powell IV has just been promoted to The Show for the first time and is hoping to stick around for a couple dozen years or so.

Joe Snake Eyes Wieland has been a mid-K, super-low-BB, Groundball machine in the minors and has a ~90 mph FB.  With his potential for masterful zone control, he's looking like the textbook Dipoto-type SP.

 

 

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Something horrible happened to Franklin and Elias.  Franklin was as sexy a blue-chipper as the M's have seen in a while, but it never materialized.  Elias was a bulldog with lots of Moxy, but fell off.  Miller, after looking like he'll never stick at SS or learn the OF, is forcing the Rays to play him somewhere because of his bat.


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He just passed Babe Ruth on the all time hits list.  Only 125 more to get to 3k.  Probably not this year, but if he plays one more year he should get there!

Amazing Ruth is still 5th all time in RBI's
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Looks like the answer is YES. Ichiro has 65 hits to go and signed a contract to return to the Marlins next year. He is expected to be a reserve, but if he learns another position like pitcher, he could get more AB's.


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Looks like the answer is YES. Ichiro has 65 hits to go and signed a contract to return to the Marlins next year. He is expected to be a reserve, but if he learns another position like pitcher, he could get more AB's.

The most surprising thing about Ichiro this last season was the sheer amount of playing time he somehow got in spite of being signed as the Marlins' 5th OF.  In so many ways, he really shouldn't be allowed 300 -- let alone 400 -- PA again.  If his PT gets drastically cut like it should, I could see him being serviceable as the 5th OF type.  If not, he's a dreadful black hole.

 

Of course, that won't matter to the Marlins since he's just there to provide something to watch (his chase for 3000).  The best case scenario is that he somehow improves and can be used as trade bait towards the deadline for a contender in need of a defense+PR OF.


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Herschel Mack Just call me 'Boog' Powell IV has just been promoted to The Show for the first time and is hoping to stick around for a couple dozen years or so.

Joe Snake Eyes Wieland has been a mid-K, super-low-BB, Groundball machine in the minors and has a ~90 mph FB.  With his potential for masterful zone control, he's looking like the textbook Dipoto-type SP.

 

 

Gone, but not forgotten AAPs:
Nick Franklin

Brad Miller

Roenis Elias

 

Something horrible happened to Franklin and Elias.  Franklin was as sexy a blue-chipper as the M's have seen in a while, but it never materialized.  Elias was a bulldog with lots of Moxy, but fell off.  Miller, after looking like he'll never stick at SS or learn the OF, is forcing the Rays to play him somewhere because of his bat.


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Or a pitcher who can also play the outfield. As a starting pitcher he wouldn't be a black hole in the lineup, plus he can also PH for a pitcher. Out of the bullpen he could be mixed and matched in a way that would effectively give the team an extra pitcher in the pen.

 

In 2015 he got all the PA's because of injury to starters. There's no guarantee they'll have as many injuries to outfielders in 2016, so there's no expectation he gets as much playing time in 2016, but he only needs 65 more hits.


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Or a pitcher who can also play the outfield. As a starting pitcher he wouldn't be a black hole in the lineup, plus he can also PH for a pitcher. Out of the bullpen he could be mixed and matched in a way that would effectively give the team an extra pitcher in the pen.

 

In 2015 he got all the PA's because of injury to starters. There's no guarantee they'll have as many injuries to outfielders in 2016, so there's no expectation he gets as much playing time in 2016, but he only needs 65 more hits.

After appearing in the one game (inning) he did last year, Ichiro has said that he will never pursue pitching in MLB again.  He's really only wanted to do it his entire career as a side act to see if he could not embarrass himself.  He did it once in an NPB All-Star Game and he's now done in once in an MLB game.  He probably feels a greater sense of accomplishment from that than he will when he gets 3000 hits.

 

And I fully understand that he got the PT due to injuries.  I meant to say/ imply that in my previous post, but after looking at it, I didn't make it very obvious that it was only because of a slew of major injuries that he got more than half the PT he did.  The Marlins would never have used him almost every day otherwise.  It would have been a much prettier season for the Fish had they'd been able to restrict Ichiro's PA to <300 -- and his end-line probably would have been better to boot!


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AAPs:

Herschel Mack Just call me 'Boog' Powell IV has just been promoted to The Show for the first time and is hoping to stick around for a couple dozen years or so.

Joe Snake Eyes Wieland has been a mid-K, super-low-BB, Groundball machine in the minors and has a ~90 mph FB.  With his potential for masterful zone control, he's looking like the textbook Dipoto-type SP.

 

 

Gone, but not forgotten AAPs:
Nick Franklin

Brad Miller

Roenis Elias

 

Something horrible happened to Franklin and Elias.  Franklin was as sexy a blue-chipper as the M's have seen in a while, but it never materialized.  Elias was a bulldog with lots of Moxy, but fell off.  Miller, after looking like he'll never stick at SS or learn the OF, is forcing the Rays to play him somewhere because of his bat.


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OK, 52 hits to go as of 17 May... The Marlins have 124 games to go... His stat line is .295/.380/.341(.721 OPS) so if he can keep it up he should get more regular playing time through the summer.  Assuming he maintains a .275 BA he'll need 190 AB over the rest of the year.  He has 44 AB in the first 38 games, so at that pace he'll only get 143 AB... he needs to step it up a bit to get more playing time in order to make it.  My guess is that if he does get to 3000 hits before the end of the year, he will hang up his cleats at the end of the year.  If he doesn't quite make it, I think that the Marlins will exercise his $2 million option and he'll get there by early May 2017 so they can take advantage of the publicity that would go along with him getting to 3000.  At only $2 million for next year, if he's still putting up an OPS over .700 in limited PA it will not be a bad deal (heck, we could use a fourth OF that can OPS .700+).  Of course, if his OPS continues the trajectory that it has been on for the past couple of years, he won't be worth a roster spot...

 

I predict that he'll make 3000 by late September this year and will hang them up at the end of the year.


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2955 ties Willie Keeler
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Wow, 4/5 one day and then 2/4 the next gets him to 2956... He is now on pace to get there this year (21 hits through game 43 puts him on pace to get 79 in 162, added to 2935 that he had at the end of 2015 gives him 3014).

 

I hope he can keep it up, as I'd rather see him end on a decent season this year instead of playing another year just to get to 3000 and have his career end on a down season.


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The names he approaches really puts it in perspective for me.

Sam Crawford 2961
Sam Rice 2987
Roberto Clemente 3000
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4 more. 1 behind Crawford
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Now Ichiro's at 3030 hits. How about this: will he get to 3100? Apparently he will. Here's a spring training story from Miami on him: http://www.miamihera...e133624789.html


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