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Best quotes on the Pineda/Montero trade
Posted 14 January 2012 - 09:54 AM
From Larry Stone:
4, Nice comparison sent my way by Rich Boudet of our sports desk:
When Yankees traded Jay Buhner (1988): 32 games, 3 HRs, 14 RBIs
When Yankees traded Montero: 18 games, 4 HRs, 12 RBIs
I'm trying to reach Frank Costanza for a reaction...
Jio Orozco - Cuz it had to be done!
Tyler Smith - Cuz Jio may get lonesome!
Gianfranco Wawoe - Cuz that name rocks!
Posted 14 January 2012 - 10:02 AM
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 02:19 PM
It is true that the Yankees tried to trade Montero on multiple occasions, but only for top-of-the-line pitching. They offered him in potential Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay deals, but would not include him for the likes of Gio Gonzalez and Mat Latos.
So Latos and Gonzalez they weren't willing to give up Montero for but we got him for Pineda. He was also in the Lee & Halladay trade rumors.
The Yankees think Jesus may be the second coming of Jorge, which made Friday's decision a very tough one.
Jorge Pasada was apart of a Yankee core that won 5 championship.....
The New York Yankees were crushed to trade Jesus Montero. The September glimmer that resembled some semblance of an in-his-prime Manny Ramirez had them as psyched up as their fans with each laser that shot off the 22-year-old's bat. Unlike many in the game, the Yankees believe Montero can catch in the majors and think he could very well become another Mike Piazza.
That is high high praise for a young guy to draw comparsion between Posada and Piazza I'm loving this deal so much.
Posted 14 January 2012 - 03:50 PM
Posted 15 January 2012 - 07:32 AM
I love "the yankees were crushed" comment. Such utter BS is spewed from the yanks org.... sadly so many in the media buy their acting job. The yankeees are doing cartwheels for geting Pineda for only Montero and a spare part.
Your sources in the Yankee organization are?
Posted 15 January 2012 - 08:15 AM
Pineda Leaving; Montero Arriving.
I can't get over the fact that the Mariners now have Justin Smoak and Jesus Montero. I didn't think that was allowed. Smoak, Montero and Dustin Ackley could potentially - potentially - form a dynamite offensive core. Not long ago that trio would've made baseball people lose their shit. Before the 2010 season - the last time Smoak was rated - Baseball America had Smoak as baseball's #13 prospect, Ackley as baseball's #12 prospect, and Montero as baseball's #4 prospect.
Posted 15 January 2012 - 04:01 PM
"There's a small chance this guy does have a Mike Piazza career -- A bad defender, but it doesn't matter, because he was the best offensive catcher of his time. There's a chance this guy could be that. Montero can really flat-out hit. I've never had one person tell me he can't hit....He has a chance to be the Mariners' best hitter for the next decade.''
The Hot Stone League -- The Burning Question on Jesus Montero - 1/14/12
Edited by Mariner Analyst, 15 January 2012 - 04:01 PM.
Posted 15 January 2012 - 07:15 PM
So Michael Pineda is leaving . . .
After having written about how much we all liked Pineda, he followed it with:
But keep in mind that Yankees fans felt the same way about Montero. Maybe to an even greater degree. Yankees fans ****in loved Jesus Montero. They'll miss the things they loved about Montero, and gain most of the things we loved about Pineda. We'll miss the things we loved about Pineda, and gain most of the things they loved about Montero.
I was feeling a little bummed about the trade yesterday. Not so much today. Now Montero is a Mariner and Pineda isn't (or almost isn't.) Time to get excited about what could be instead of what could have been. And if Montero had been in our system for the past 4 or 5 years, we'd be attached to and excited for him. And I betcha most of would hate the idea of trading away Jesus to the Yankees for Pineda.
Posted 16 January 2012 - 12:41 AM
a couple posts I enjoyed...
Good news, Montero miserists, we will get to see him extra-early, as the Mariners open the season with two games in Japan vs. the Oakland A’s.
Maybe we’ll see Montero hit a homer off of
Gio Gonzalez Trevor CahillBrett Anderson or Bartolo Colon!
There will be hits and there will be misses. I hope the fans on this blog give this trade at least a year to see if it works out–it may even take more time than that. My money says Pineda is a new Felix or Verlander–he’s got their stuff. Montero is likely another Edgar Martinez. Everybody wins.
Also, I finally collected my thoughts about The Trade
Edited by lisa mariner, 16 January 2012 - 12:47 AM.
Posted 16 January 2012 - 08:21 AM
Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:07 AM
I agree that it's awesome to have all of Ackley, Smoak, and Montero on the team with others like Carp, Seager and Liddi as very nice additions. We also have a crop of young outfielders too numerous to mention, and we might also find a gem or two in that group. That is one awesome core of young position players.
I also know that no deal between the Yankees and Mariners isn't done until it's done. Would Cashman really use this potential trade as a way to get back at Zduriencik for bailing on the Cliff Lee deal last year? He could still pull the rug out from this one just for spite. After all, didn't the Yankees say they would never deal with the Mariners again just six months ago?
I doubt it, the Yankees desperately need Pineda in 2012, and love the idea they will have him for many years to come. Their bright, young pitching stars they thought they had for their rotation last season turned out to be quite mediocre, and Pineda turned out to be quite awesome in his first season. Sometimes reality sucks enough that pride is no longer a factor.
1. Daniel Robertson, RH - CF, RF, LF, 2B - PCL regular since 2012. Developed by the Padres, MLB time with Angels and Rangers. It's good to finally have him on our side. Not on the 40-man, so he's behind a lot of players, but I still like him.
2. Blake Parker, RH - Co-closer - From the Cubs organization, and rushed to AAA in 2008. First MLB games with Cubs in 2012. Not on 40-man roster so behind Mayckol Guaipe and Jonathan Aro.
3. Adrian Sampson, RH - Starter - From the Pirates organization. AAA since 2014, but his first full year in the PCL. Not on 40-man roster so behind Cody Martin and James Paxton.
Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:24 AM
This was this Yankee's fan initial reaction when he heard about the trade ...
I just threw up in my mouth - disgusted.
And another today when asked in a poll thread whether he liked the deal or not ...
Brain was a definite yes, with heart being a bit more reserved.
Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:51 AM
pineda for montero is a joke.
there is something wrong with a twenty two year old who can only throw two pitches when he has 97mph velocity.
a good pitching coach should be able to teach him a new pitch in 6 weeks or so.
the fact it hasnít happened says this kid isnít a quick learner.
havenít the yankees learned anything with butting heads with aj burnett types.
pineda is going to end up in the bullpen in a few years.
montero was traded for a future reliever.
cashman canít help himself.
he has to do impose his will and ego on things whether it makes any sense or not.
montero is going to make cashman look stupid.
Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:57 AM
Posted 16 January 2012 - 01:10 PM
Me, I think both teams traded from depth to fill a need, the M's from pitching to gain a nearly sure-thing MOTO bat, the Yankees from catching depth to gain a potential ace starter who just finished a pretty doggone good All-Star rookie campaign.
There's an old saying, "The Proof Is In The Pudding."
Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?
Posted 16 January 2012 - 01:12 PM
There's an old saying, "The Proof Is In The Pudding."
Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?
Posted 17 January 2012 - 07:51 AM
KJR 950's Dave Softy Mahler interviewed Jim Callis of Baseball America yesterday afternoon. In that interview, Callis related a great story. He said that on the day that Albert Pujols signed his deal, Brian Cashman joked, saying the following ...
Cashman: "Yeah, we hear that Pujols guyís pretty good. You know, heís a lot like Jesus Montero."
Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:20 AM
"Do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble."
Hold it... That might have been the wrong Jesus.
Alex Jackson - Not very impressive for his second year in A ball. My boy is starting to look like a 1st round bust.
2016 Clinton: .243/.332/.408/.740
2015 Clinton/Everett: .207/.318/.365/.683
2014 Peoria: .280/.344/.476/.820
Forrest Snow - Started the year injured, then split the year between AA and AAA. At 27, his career may be winding down.
2016 AA/AAA: 3-4, 2.83 ERA, 61 K, 15 BB, 1.074 WHIP, 54 IP
Career: 33-47, 4.08 ERA, 628 K, 241 BB, 1.257 WHIP, 682 IP
Gone But Not Forgotten (former adopt-a-players):
Eric Thames - Battled injury and had a down year in Korea, only hitting .317/.425/.676/1.101 over 121 games.
Matt Mangini - Out of baseball. Now sells cigars and offers baseball training/evaluation services.
Mike Morse - Released by the Pirates in April. Looks like the end of a 12-year career for the former M's prospect.
Jamal Strong - Let go after 2005. Played in the Yankees, Cubs and Braves systems. Now a national scout for the Cards.
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